Episode 1021 - Building the Martial Community You Want
In this episode, join Andrew and Victor Guarino as they discuss building the martial community you want, both from the students in your school as well as local martial artists in your area.
Building the Martial Community You Want - Episode 1021
SUMMARY
In this episode, Andrew and Victor discuss the importance of building a martial arts community that extends beyond the dojo. They explore the distinction between culture and community, emphasizing the need for martial arts schools to connect with local businesses and other martial artists. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they highlight the significance of leading by example, fostering relationships, and creating a supportive environment for students and the broader community.
TAKEAWAYS
Building the community that you want is essential.
Culture is the heartbeat of the community.
Emulate the behavior you want to see in students.
Partnering with local businesses enhances community ties.
It's important to know your neighbors for a happier life.
Our competition is anything other than martial arts.
Building relationships with other martial artists is crucial.
Creating a local martial arts network fosters collaboration.
Community engagement leads to a more fulfilling martial arts experience.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:42 Building the Martial Community You Want
02:23 The Importance of Culture vs. Community
9:55 Leading by Example in Martial Arts
15:14 Connecting with Local Businesses
21:21 Creating a Local Martial Arts Network
28:05 Building Relationships with Other Martial Artists
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SHOW TRANSCRIPT
Andrew Adams (02:09.17)
Welcome you're listening and watching to the next episode of whistle kick martial arts radio. And today I'm joined by my good friend. Well, we're definitely, we're definitely running on no coffee this morning. Huh? wait. No shoot. You have coffee.
Vic (02:20.29)
Yeah.
Vic (02:26.446)
Green tea. I've been drinking too much coffee lately. So I'm
Andrew Adams (02:27.454)
Green tea. Gotcha. Starting to cut back. Well, the voice you heard is my good friend, Victor. How are you today, Victor? Better than I am, evidently. And today we're going to talk about building the Marshall community that you want. And we're going to get into all kinds of stuff. But before we do, I want to make sure that we
Vic (02:38.594)
Doing great, doing great.
Andrew Adams (02:53.556)
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Vic (04:20.568)
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Andrew Adams (05:18.664)
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Vic (05:21.656)
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Andrew Adams (05:54.483)
Awesome. So one more time that website is whistlekick martial arts radio slash partners. All right. So we are here to talk about building the martial community that you want. Now, some people would call that like a, I know our good friend, Craig Wareham would say building the martial art culture, but we're using the word community and that's, you know, very specific words. So what does that mean to you, Victor?
Vic (06:23.662)
Yeah, so Craig and I talk about this a lot, all the time. It's funny that you mentioned him. So culture, think, is... and it's all of a matter of semantics, but culture, think, is different than community in the fact that culture is what happens inside of your martial arts school. Whereas when I use the term community, I'm not just talking about your students and the...
families of the students who are directly influenced by you, but I'm talking about the people who orbit your school, the community, like the physical town that orbits your school. And I think that your culture directly will impact the community that you have, which impacts.
you know, the people who are around you as well. So I think culture is the heartbeat of the community, which is the whole picture.
Andrew Adams (07:24.34)
Yeah. And for me, I see it fairly similarly, right? To me, the culture is inside the school and the community is essentially outside the school. You know, your martial art, your school culture can become a community, but you can have a culture within your school and still not have much of a community with those students. Right? So I think for me, that's where the distinction lies. Right?
Vic (07:51.532)
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Andrew Adams (07:55.284)
We both were like
Vic (07:59.063)
Yeah, and then waiting for the other person to go.
Andrew Adams (08:01.172)
you know, I think the other, know, we're going to get into that, but I think the other part of it that, that I think we might want to consider talking about as well is, you know, obviously we're, we're right now talking about the students in our schools and how they branch out into their families and then bigger community. But I also want to make sure that we talk about the other martial artists that we bring into our.
community, right? So I think those are the, those are the two avenues we want to go. So let's chat about how we can go from the student body first and then out into their families and then out into the community before we talk about other martial artists.
Vic (09:01.038)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (09:07.47)
Yeah, for sure. And I think when we were talking about this and I had this idea of, look, this would make a good topic, I mentioned to you, leading from the front, which is a big thing. Karen, my wife, who's been on the show before and who is my partner in all of the things. We run the school together. We wear, you know, we wear the role of instructor together.
And we talk about this that we want to emulate the behavior that we want to see from our students. And so instead of, you know, there's a difference between us walking onto the floor and demanding respect and walking onto the floor and nurturing the respect that we have from our students. And so we've done this from the very beginning, from
secret rules that her and I have had that we discussed and they're secret only because they only apply to her and I because we are the leaders of our school. As time goes on, we now have intermediate students, know, people being leaders are expanding from just her and I because they're naturally coming to the surface, but
That's neither here nor there. It still falls on us. So one of the very first things that happened before we even had our own space was Karen and I have, we have our black belts in different styles. We are teaching my instructor's style of Segi-Do-Ru because I have permission and blessing to teach his curriculum. And any of you who have run a school know that
Creating a curriculum is a lot of trial and error as you go through and tweak and so it made more sense to use something that had already been through, you know, 30 odd years of tweaking to then just fit it to our community here. But the the one of the things that we decided right off the bat is we both went to Kataro maybe like a month in
Vic (11:28.95)
And we both order black belts with our school logos on it. Plain, no rank stripe, black belts. And we had an hour conversation about this leading up into it. And when we teach class, those are the belts that we wear. We wear our actual ranks when we do things like testing that are formal. But when we teach class, we wear the exact same rank. And the reason for that is we, from day one,
Andrew Adams (11:34.74)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (11:48.692)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (11:58.136)
when all we had were wipeouts, emphasized to our students, because we line up in rank order, highest rank to lowest rank. And we said, everybody look to your left, to the lower rank underneath you. And you are responsible for every person on that side of the room from you. If they need help in this room with something we're doing, you know more than they do. You help them. And then we pointed back at us. And I was like, Sensei and I are wearing the same belt.
because honestly, we are equal. If you need help and I am indisposed, Sensei's help is not lesser than mine. We are responsible for you. That was something that was super important to us immediately right off the bat. And now what we see, now that we have green belts and yellow belts and senior white belts and all this stuff, is we see young kids going up to
Andrew Adams (12:30.554)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (12:55.864)
their peers who are the same age, but a lesser rank, if I'm helping someone, they'll raise their hand and they'll say, hey, Shihan, do you want me to just show him the next E-Pon? He knows one and two. Do you want me just to teach him number three? Sure, go ahead. And I was like, I don't have to do anything because he knows it. Cool. And then all we have to do is go back over and tweak.
Andrew Adams (13:09.364)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (13:24.078)
tweak the little things, but he gets the basic form and so it's cool now that we just celebrated our second year anniversary to see this decision we made on day one actually having real life ramifications two years later. And the only reason it is is because we decided, this is something that's very important to us.
Andrew Adams (13:39.186)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (13:44.966)
Yeah. Now, how do you take that sort of mindset and help bring it out of the dojo out into the local community?
Vic (13:55.064)
So everything that we do, even the things that we're doing for...
our school for our students specifically, we try to center it around the businesses that are around us. For example, we just this past Saturday, which is yesterday as of the recording of this, we launched a Saturday morning class and we don't generally, we generally keep Saturday mornings for special events.
Andrew Adams (14:33.684)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (14:33.934)
Or we do our toddler class, but we're like, you know, Saturday morning, there's this donut shop that closes by noon. It's, it is our neighbor and they are super busy Friday morning and Saturday mornings. Friday morning, I teach a Tai Chi class. So there are some students in there, but it's, it's a crying shame on their busiest day on Saturday morning that all this traffic, because we have a park next to us and a park across the street from us.
that all this traffic is walking by us and we look close, you know, because our first class doesn't start until 10. So we're like, let's start a Saturday morning class. It'll be all ages, all ranks. We'll just get people in. And so as this last month we were preparing for this class, we are like, and hey, make sure that you go next door, grab a donut, grab some coffee. And the funny thing was, was that when we first thought about doing a Saturday morning class,
We had a super close tight relationship with the manager, of the donut shop. We don't anymore for, for the best possible reasons, that manager and her fiance bought another fran- another franchise of that donut shop three, like a 10 and a half over. So she's no longer the manager there and it's a brand new manager who I've met a couple of times. don't, we don't have the same relationship, but still I'm like, you know what? This is a community.
Andrew Adams (15:49.726)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (16:00.802)
this go, go help them. you know, like, and I didn't even tell them that I was doing that. we recently held an in-house tournament at the foundry, which is a church across the street from us, but they are open during the week for free and they operate as a community center. They don't have a sanctuary. They have a gymnasium that they set chairs up in on Sunday morning for their service, but it gets really hot here in Kansas in the summer and it gets really
Andrew Adams (16:00.99)
Mm.
Andrew Adams (16:07.262)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (16:29.098)
rainy and cold in the wintertime. And so during the week, you can just come in and use their gym for free. And so we had an in-house tournament there. And during that tournament, we encouraged all of our parents and, know, hey, like, go buy stuff from the cafe, go eat. And after we were done paying for the tournament,
because the tournament was just something that we held so our students would have that experience so that when we go to other invitational tournaments, that's not their first experience, you know, and we donated any profit that we made off of that tournament to the Foundry. So the Foundry made the money. We were just using their space for them. But we are always looking for ways to partner with the community around us.
Andrew Adams (17:05.908)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (17:25.196)
regardless of if all we get is experience from it.
Andrew Adams (17:29.14)
So there have definitely been studies that have shown that people who live in residential neighborhoods, the people that get to know their neighbors live a happier, less stressful life because they know the people that are around them, as opposed to living and not knowing who's around you. And so I don't know that there's been studies of that.
Vic (17:50.702)
You
Andrew Adams (17:58.035)
with martial arts school owners, but it makes sense that it would carry over that if your martial arts school is here and you have a handful of businesses around you, getting to know those businesses and the people who run them and manage them or own them will make your life happier because you're gonna know who's over there and who's over there. And if there is an issue with whatever,
Vic (18:23.982)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (18:26.618)
You know, altercation happened in here's, here's a perfect example. there was a martial arts school here in town that, a new business moved in and they didn't really get to know each other. And there was an altercation that happened in the parking lot. Completely unrelated to the martial arts school. was, they were patrons of this other business. but because the martial arts school and the business weren't on good terms, they didn't really know each other. It was hard. They.
when they went in to talk about it, it was automatically a confrontation because the two business owners didn't know each other and didn't have any sort of working relationship. So I think, you know, when you're looking at building your out into the community, it has to start with knowing who your community is, right? You know, I think that's huge.
Vic (19:14.978)
Yeah. I think, yeah, and it's interesting because like really what we're talking about here is what some people, some skeptical people may be listening to this might be like, well, that's just good business sense, right? Good business people do it all. Like that's what you do. You network, you wheel and deal. But I always reference back to there was this moment where my
My household oft was one growing up where any number of theological, philosophical, morality conversations were going on once. there's a scene in the life of Jesus where he gets on a mountain and just starts talking for like five chapters. It's called the Sermon on the Mount.
And my dad was referencing it one day and he wrapped it up and I remember because he walked around the house jokingly yelling this all the time and he was like, it's about your heart. Like outward action doesn't matter as much as your intention matters. So there is a difference between going to the donut shop and be like, hey, I'm going to scratch your back. You better scratch mine to, I'm going to just be the good.
in the world around me. And because that's just how we should be as humans. I take a lot of, I'm trained to run ministries out of religious organizations. That's what my college degree technically is in. But just because I work in the private for-profit sector doesn't mean that I can't take all of that training and still apply it, which is what Karen and I try to do. And honestly, like,
Andrew Adams (20:36.361)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (21:03.752)
I think that the world is filled with darkness, so why not be one bright spot in someone's day? And it's funny because this is kind of how we've been operating off of two years and we have free training day Midwest, number two coming up in a month, dear God. And I'm trying to get sponsors and things like that. I called Rudy's, which is this Mexican restaurant across the street from us and
Andrew Adams (21:17.524)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (21:31.15)
I was like, hey, can I talk to the manager? You know, this is my first time ever reaching out because the manager's never been there when I've been there to walk in in person and did the thing I don't like. We've talked about it, Andrew, calling on the phone as opposed to walking into the place. And I introduced myself. Hi, I'm Victor. I work for, you know, I'm calling on behalf of Whistlekick Martial Arts, but you know, I, my wife and I own the martial arts school across the park. you're that school?
Andrew Adams (21:40.232)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (21:46.728)
Absolutely.
Vic (22:00.268)
Right there, of course, yeah, what can I do for you, Vic? And all of a sudden, I'm having a conversation. They're like, yeah, we definitely can be a sponsor. We'd love to do that. We'd love to join you. That sounds like a really... And I was like, okay, guess I have a reputation preceding me that I didn't know that I had. But it's just that thing is that we're all in this thing together as small business owners and therefore...
Yeah, let's help each other out. And there is a benefit. It's not saying that that's why we do what we do, but it's okay to let the good fruit come back on you for the good seeds that you're throwing out.
Andrew Adams (22:45.254)
Yeah. And I think everybody listening will see that and get that. And it makes, makes complete sense. You know, you want to know the community that you're living in so that you can be a part of it and, and help foster the change that you want to see. Right. Now the other side of this coin that I definitely wanted to talk about was building the Marshall community you want in the actual Marshall sense. So I know Victor that you have some
Vic (23:00.27)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (23:13.424)
martial artists in your area that are not students of yours. don't, they don't attend your, you know, they don't attend your school on a regular basis, but I think you would agree. They are in your martial community. They, they are, they, they do. If you hold an event, they will come. If they hold an event, you and some of your students will go as well. And I think, I think we should chat at least a little bit about how to form those connections with local martial artists.
So that you can start to build your martial community as well. So for me, one of the things that I did, which we have talked about on the show before is the advanced trainings that I run in Keene, New Hampshire once a month. And you know, the, was for this exact reason. It was because I wanted to build a local martial arts community, not adversarial quote unquote enemies. Right. And so.
Vic (23:54.83)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (24:12.12)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (24:12.18)
It, it, initially started, it stemmed from my school. This was five, this was pre COVID. So we're talking six, seven years ago was running, or had a couple of eighth, Don instructors coming in to teach and teach for the weekend. And the whole weekend was a hundred dollars for like two and a half days. Um, which
If you go to seminars, you'll, you'll understand that that's if you don't go to seminars, you should understand that's a very low price. A dollars for two and a half day seminar.
Vic (24:46.638)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (24:49.498)
And not one single person from the community came. The only people that were at the seminar were people that were already students of my school, or there were a couple of friends of my instructor that came, but for the most part, that was it. So, you know, we, there were very, but, locally here in town, there were like four other martial arts schools and they didn't come to our event. Why did they not come to our event? They don't know who we are. We hadn't reached out to them to get to know them at all in any way, or form. And so I started up these once a month trainings and only for advanced students, because I didn't want the locals, the school across the way to think I want their students to come train.
so that they will stop training with them. So that they're, so I'm trying to steal their students. That wasn't it at all. But if I'm inviting their black belts to come over, their black belts aren't going to leave them, right? Their black belts in their school, they're to stay there. And it was a way to get my foot in the door, talk to these other school owners, invite them to come to a free training session where every month it's a different teacher. One month, I might have them teach. I'm going to the school owner, hey,
Next month, do you want to teach? And then the next month, it'll be this other teacher over here. And, and it helped me to build a community so that when we did hold events in town, those people are more likely to get involved. Now I know you've done something similar. can you talk, talk a little bit about the, about that for you?
Vic (26:58.668)
Yeah, so we unashamedly stole that idea from you for the same reasons that you were talking about wanting it, but also, like I said when Karen and I started, all of our students were white belts. And for her and I...
to keep working on stuff at our level, to keep developing, keep having something of value for our students was important. And we're like, hey, why don't we just try to surround ourselves with other people in the same situation that we're in, to challenge us, to show us different perspectives, not to steal techniques, but it's super interesting to see, huh, that's how you would handle that, or ooh.
That's what you would do in a fight. Well, how would I take what I know and how would I adapt it to the same situation? It's just training at a different level than here's the basic inside block. Those are all good things, but at some point you have to play, as we say, and experiment. Take things to the lab and see what shakes out.
Absolutely no one came. When we were having this thing once a month at our school, no one was coming. And there were a couple times where we had her and I and we would just work out, or her and I and one other person, but that one other person was like a friend of ours or my kung fu.
You know, brother who lives in another state, but just close enough to drive for the day. Oh, whatever. We were still, we were still getting something out of it. Then we had free training day Midwest, the first one. And a lot of the people who were local, who we asked to present showed up, uh, at like afterwards to just eat. We're like, I was like, just, Hey,
Vic (29:01.036)
We're going over and we're going to meet at this food outdoor food court and we're just going to eat. And then all of a sudden, like all these people showed up and, you know, someone, one of the people who came Aubrey, who has just recently been on the show, she also like just showed up to free training day to participate and had loose connections to one other person who was there. But like, she just showed up by herself, didn't come with anyone. She's like, I'm martial arts thing. I'm going to go.
Andrew Adams (29:24.5)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (29:30.988)
And I was like, okay, so here are the people. So very quickly when the school year started, which for, we had free training day in July school year in Kansas starts in August. We're like, we are going to have our first advanced bell training again, and we're going to start with all of the local people who were here. And our first one was Aubrey and one of the presenters students, Karen and I. All right, cool. Whatever is fine.
Andrew Adams (29:57.299)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (30:00.75)
And then we just kept, we're gonna have it, we're gonna have it, we're gonna have it. And now, like, we had... And then we got to the point where there were, like, there were, like, 12 people, 14 people at the last few that we had. And I was like, okay. So here's the group, here's the community. And we did the thing where, not this past one, but before that, I was like, hey, Aubrey, I'm tired.
of teaching to you and your folks over at Ronin, who I've met a lot of them because I went to their grand opening of their new location. I was like, do you guys want to, you know?
teach at the next advanced belt training and show us what it's like to change your techniques to be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye instead of like being good techniques. And I just got to be a student in my own school, which was awesome. and they, her and her friend, Noah came and they taught us all how to make it look like we were getting hit and how to play act. And it was an awesome time.
Andrew Adams (30:43.038)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Vic (31:02.734)
And now I have people apologizing to me when they have to cancel showing up to the advanced belt training that we're having monthly. But now like, you know, I mentioned Aubrey because she shows up for stuff that we do at our school. That's not like that, that she's not teaching it. she's going to be presenting this year at free training day, which we're really excited about. But I was like, Hey, we're having a sparring night.
Andrew Adams (31:08.026)
Mm. Yeah. Yeah.
Vic (31:31.736)
Just an extra night, I'd love it if my students had someone besides Karen and I to fight, someone who was like a wild card. Do you wanna like show up? Yeah, sure. She showed up, gear and all, and hung out with us for a couple hours, you know? Which is awesome.
Andrew Adams (31:46.386)
Yeah. And so you were, so you're able to build that community of local martial artists because you met them at an event that you helped sponsor and run.
Vic (31:53.454)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (31:57.996)
Right, and I also say this is a little bit of...
Vic (32:05.868)
Not cheating, cheating is the wrong word, but, but I definitely leverage the fact that we hosted free training day in a positive way to our advantage because martial artists are skeptical and wary more so than many other people that I've ever heard of. And, and we, for the most part, and I'll throw myself in this, I get, I get trapped in this. see other schools as our competition, but really we're not.
Our competition is anything other than martial arts that is trying to target the same demographics as us. But I was inviting them to our school and that is a scary thing. Well, why am I going to come to your school? Why am I going to wa- I get it. Where is it free training day? Hey, meet me at this-
third party neutral. I always think of Highlander, like Holy Ground, you know, where you're not allowed to have beef with people. And that's what it is. if I had to do this again, if I had to build this again without the benefit of a free training day, I definitely think that I would wait to the spring or the summer and a couple of the first advanced belt trainings I would hold.
Andrew Adams (32:59.848)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vic (33:28.078)
would not be in my school. They would be like, hey, martial artists, we are meeting up at this park. And I know a lot of Kung Fu guys who do this too, because I've been invited to do a couple of them. And that's what they do. We're not meeting at anyone's school. We're meeting at this park at this time. Bring your own drinks, bring your own, because now it's just a public area. And they build that community around that, you know, low expectation. I'm not going to.
Andrew Adams (33:49.425)
Exactly.
Vic (33:55.778)
You walk into a business, you expect someone to sell you something. Even if they don't, you still have that, okay, what's their catch? What do they want from me? And so there are ways to purposefully tear that barrier down. We used free training day as a means to do that because we were on, we were literally on holy ground, you know, because we were at a church.
Andrew Adams (34:03.89)
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Andrew Adams (34:14.516)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (34:20.02)
you
Vic (34:21.784)
But it just worked out that way, that that was where we made all those connections. And then the next time we invited people, it was us inviting them, not some other martial arts school.
Andrew Adams (34:33.47)
per some person they didn't really know. So you, was someone that they knew from their community. Excellent. What have we missed? Have we missed everything? I missed anything. Maybe you listening or watching, maybe there's a part of this that, that we didn't get into that you want us to, and we can come back and talk about it some more. Let us know. You can contact me Andrew at whistlekick.com. Victor, if people want to reach out to you, how should they do that?
Vic (34:41.538)
Mm-hmm.
Vic (35:01.998)
victor.whistlekick.gmail.com
Andrew Adams (35:06.068)
There you go. And make sure to go check out whistlekick.com for all the stuff that we do. Check out whistlekick martial arts radio.com for this episode and everything else. you know, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, we have over a thousand episodes, which are all completely free. Doesn't cost you anything to listen to them or watch them. we do occasionally have some sponsors. We mentioned martial litics earlier. You can go to whistlekick martial arts radio.com forward slash.
partners to find out the extra 60 day trial that you can get from martiallytics. but this show is not free to produce. costs money to happen. And so, I'm stealing this from another podcast that I listened to. We, we would love for you to go to patreon.com slash whistle kick and help support the show. Don't don't do it. Do do do it.
Thank you. Thank you for laughing. My little joke there. I appreciate it. It wasn't mine. I stole it from another podcast. Um, but we would, we would love for you to get, help us make this show happen. so patreon.com slash whistle kick for as little as $5 a month, which is less than the cost of a cup of coffee or at like a Starbucks or a, cost of a beer. Buy me a beer. Buy me a beer once a month, $5 a month. That's all I'm asking. So Victor, think, uh, we're good.
Vic (36:23.872)
You
Andrew Adams (36:31.975)
Until next time.
Vic (36:32.418)
Yeah, sounds good. Train hard and have a great day.
Andrew Adams (36:36.615)
Smile.