Episode 629 - Rapid Fire Q&A #6
In this episode, Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams take on another iteration of the Rapid Fire Question and Answers.
Rapid Fire Q&A #6 - Episode 629
Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams tackle a series of questions from you, the listeners, in the form of a Rapid Fire Q&A. Here are the questions they tried to answer:
The relationship an instructor should have with their students and how that relationship starts to change when the students taking more roles in the school.
Are non-violent people drawn to martial arts or do martial arts make non-violent people?
What is the thing you are most proud of with regard to whistlekick?
What makes martial arts an art?
What martial art is best for defeating a woodchuck?
Show Transcript
You can read the transcript below.
Jeremy Lesniak:
What's going on everybody? Welcome, this is whistlekick Martial Arts Radio and today Andrew and I have another 'Rapid Fire Q&A' in store. I don't know what's coming', he's gonna ask me some questions. Look at him smile, I'm worried. Not really worried but maybe I should be. I wanna thank you for watching, you can see us in person. If you're listening to this, you might wanna stop and watch the video, unless you're driving or something--
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, don't do that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, don't do that. That would be bad, but of course the video versions are available on YouTube. Now, if you wanna see everything we've got going on, go to whistlekick.com. It's our online home, it's the place you're gonna find all the things that we're doing. Including our store. Store at whistlekick.com. One of the variety of ways we offset the cost of this show and the other content that we produce, if you use the code podcast15. You'll save 15% off. Some gear or. uniform-- in fact, by the time this comes out, there's a good chance there's some new gear in the store or there's gear on the way, I guess. It's taken a couple years, literally, but it's happening. What else? Whistlekickprograms.com, place you can get various training programs that are not affiliated with any particular martial art, they’re martial arts agnostic and then we've also got our Patreon, patreon.com/whistlekick. We've actually just recorded an exclusive episode for the Patreon, talking about-- how would we describe that episode?
Andrew Adams:
Just do it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, we're gonna steal Nike's slogan, was kinda basically talking about being willing to do things that maybe you're not great at and where that can lead. So I thought it was good conversation. I like talking about that subject.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Check out Patreon, you get free merch, we throw in stickers and shirts and all kinds of great stuff at you now so Patreon.com/whistlekick. Now, if you wanna check out this show, whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. Newsletter, every episode we've ever done, we've got some collection of episodes, guest submission form, all kinds of things. Anything else we throw in at the top of the show before we roll into this thing?
Andrew Adams:
No, I think you hit it all. You know, share this with all your friends.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, here we are 6 plus years in, that is still the number one way that this show grows is when people say "Hey, did you see this thing that these people said?" Whether it's 'this people' or 'this person' or 'this person' and-- I was gonna point at the mannequin over there but- I guess. You can't see, there's a very large mannequin- it's far taller than either of us.
Andrew Adams:
I'm intimidated cause he's got really good abs.
Jeremy Lesniak:
He has great abs. We're not gonna talk about this the rest of--
Andrew Adams:
Okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Alright. So these Rapid-Fire Q&As, people seem to like these and are they getting better about sending you questions?
Andrew Adams:
No, you should send me more questions.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You know, it's funny cause on the backend people like-- they seem to enjoy throwing me for a loop.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, and I have a couple of questions picked out today.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Good, good. So how do you get a hold of you? Andrew whistlekickmartialartsradio.com.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, just shoot me an email.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Or they can find you on social media, you're available.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, I'm on Facebook all the time.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I mean-- theoretically, you could send them to me but I'd rather you didn't because I like the surprise.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, especially when there are fun ones like what I have today.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And you're gonna have to pardon me, I don't usually do this, but it is hot in here. It's not nearly as hot as outside, but I'm gonna be drinking iced tea.
Andrew Adams:
Alright. So, are you ready?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm ready, let's do it.
Andrew Adams:
Question number one. Was-- you discussed before the relationship that instructors and students should have with each other.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And should not have.
Andrew Adams:
And should not have. Yeah, absolutely. But I would like you to describe the relationship an instructor should have with their students and how that relationship starts to change when the student start taking more of a role in the school when they start teaching and start being on test examinations, exam boards, and things like that. Like, how does that-- if at all, how does the relationship change?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I think you could look at it two ways. I think you could look at it-- the relationship from the specific actions, in which case, has definitely changed, or you could look at it from what are the principles, what are the attitudes, what are the responsibilities that lead to the actions because I don't think those do change. If we think about-- what is the responsibility of a young student? Now, I have been using those terms. Younger and older student, not in terms of age, but in terms of length and time training. Seems like a better way to describe it. So if you think about a young student, what's the responsibilities? To show up, to train, to practice, to appropriately ask questions; to, hopefully, support the school. Whatever those conditions are. Now, if i have been training that school for 30 years, I don't think my responsibilities change. I don't think the way that I engage with that school or that instructor necessarily changes at that level, at a macro level. I'm still gonna show up, I'm still gonna support the school, maybe that looks like teaching or taking over classes when the head instructor goes away, something like that. But I'm still doing all of those things. Now, of course, the specifics can change dramatically. When I'm a younger student, I'm probably paying dues and confused and putting my foot in my mouth and embarrassing myself. When I'm an older student, I'm potentially not paying or paying for private lessons or the majority of my time in school involves me standing in front of the room and I'm teaching breakout sessions with the students. There are a lot of different ways that we can start to look at this. And so, those are the specifics with the school. Now, what about the instructor? Cause that was the heart of the question. What's the goal of the instructor? What is the role of the instructor? It's to facilitate the martial arts development of the students, and if I'm a young student, that path is pretty cut and dry. I show up, I train, I practice, I pay my dues, whatever. When I'm an older student, there can be some variation there. I've had instructors who didn't know what to do with me because I have been training so much longer than any of their other students. They're like "Uhhh, go teach those people," and in those cases, the delta seemingly decreases between my instructor and myself. Not quite peers, but if we think of peer vs. superior subordinate, that gap seems to change. Now, that could just be in my perspective. It could just be my mindset. This is a good question. This is a really good question.
Andrew Adams:
Well, I asked it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, I appreciate it. I think there's so much opportunity for variance. At the-- what's called it, the further along, the older the student is. And I'm thinking of other instructors that I work with. Instructors I've worked with off and on for a very long time, and we know each other so well that there are times when it seems to flip back and forth between a peer relationship and a student-teacher relationship. And we know where those lines are. We don't have to talk about them, we don't have to wonder. It's just-- you've got enough time in, and it just happens. Right, and it's-- I'm not talking about 5-6 years, I'm talking about literally decades. I don't know if you've had opportunity to train with any of your instructors for decades--
Andrew Adams:
I honestly haven't.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Things really change in the years. And you know, I'm thinking of my original karate instructors who started teaching me when I was 4 years old, they helped raise me. If I make a list of people who helped raise me, you know, both of them are in the top ten. You know, probably both in the top five. So, they know me in a way, I know them in a way that you know, it's kinda like having a narrow relationship with a parent. You know, your parents are your parents, and they parent you in every way. This is like, they're my karate parents. Martial arts parents. I don't think there's one-size-fits-all.
Andrew Adams:
Okay. Alright, that's fair.
Jeremy Lesniak:
But I- if other people have different perspectives on this, I definitely want to hear it because this is something I don't know that I've ever considered.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, so I've always thought that, and you know, you have mentioned this in the past as well that the relationship between the instructor and a student should continue to be a professional relationship, and I don't want to sound like it's all business, but you know, the job of the instructor is not necessarily to become best friends with the students in the class, and in a lot of ways that can be detrimental.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Quite often, it breaks down. In fact, when I think of schools that have blown up, it's either because there is a romantic relationship or a friendship relationship.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, but that relationship can definitely start to change as the student becomes more involved with-- I don't wanna say the running of the school, but helping, you know, with testing and helping with teaching. You know, I'm thinking of it in my case right now, this is the first week that my martial arts instructor in my school has been on vacation. He took the entire week off, and he handed the school over to myself and another student, and we are running the school for a week which is not abnormal, I've taught classes in the school many, many times but it's usually done a day here or a day there, but now it's been a week. So that's what made me think of this topic.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Interesting.
Andrew Adams:
That was a good question.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'd love to have a, even if it's just a personal chat, after your instructor comes back. You know, just what did that feel like. You know, was there any kind of debrief and did that lead to any follow-up to this.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I’ll make a note. Okay. Question number two. This was inspired by an episode that came out a few months ago. The [00:10:25.04] was on.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, [00:10:27.00].
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, great episode.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Andrew Adams:
And one of the quotes was, "Martial artists tend to be fairly non-violent people." So question is, are non-violent people drawn to martial arts? Or do martial arts make non-violent people?
Jeremy Lesniak:
The first half of that 'are non-violent people drawn to martial arts?' I don't have a study, I don't have data points to back this up, but my gut tells me no, because unless you fully understand martial arts or even moderately understand martial arts, there's a tendency to see them as tools of violence. So I think I'm mildly confident in saying non-violent people are not drawn to martial arts. Do we accept the statement-- do I accept the statement that martial artists are generally non-violent people? Yes. Why do some people become violent? Fear, ego; there are obvious answers, you know, self-defense. Let's put those aside because that happens so frequent. If you are a violent person, it's probably not because people are trying to kill you all hours of the day. It is something in your personality. Can we then say that the inherent tendency towards being violent, for some people is tempered, through their martial arts training? And I would say yes, because as the average person grows as a martial artist, they become more confident. They become less attached to their ego, and if those are the personality traits that lead to violence, I think it's logical that those, as they are tempered, lead to less violence. Thus we can say, yes. Martial arts reduces violent tendencies. Martial artists are less violent people.
Andrew Adams:
Okay, good. Good answer. I feel very much the same.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Damn, knocking these out. Knocking these out. I can see the clock this time. If you see-- the camera's here. Actually, next time we should try to set the laptop like, right under the camera so when I look at it, we’re looking.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
Jeremy Lesniak:
See? We're learning and figuring this stuff out.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, alright. Next Question. We'll shoot you one should be pretty easy first and we'll save the next one. Okay. All right, ready so, what is the thing you are most proud of in regard to whistlekick?
Jeremy Lesniak:
The platform we've created. When I launched whistlekick, I was under this false assumption that simply presenting martial artists with a better option in the beginning days of the sparring gear. "Hey, this gear is better,"
"Hey, I like better! I'll buy better." I thought everyone would jump for joy. I thought I was not the only one frustrated at the caliber of sparring gear that was out there. I assumed, I just had to bring in an order, it would be obvious. Everyone would buy it, it'd be fun. That didn't happen. When I set up the first event, we made three sales. Two of them were to people who forgot their gear and did not care what they were buying.
Andrew Adams:
They just needed something.
Jeremy Lesniak:
They just needed something. In fact, I remember one of them saying like my divisions now, I don't have time to talk about this. I was so proud of what we had made. I'd invested so much and then started looking around like, "Okay, how do I get the word out? how do I get people to care?" Reached out to a prominent podcast at the time, about sponsorship, I was putting ads in magazines and all of this disjointed content that was supposedly a platform to reach the martial arts community was ineffective. It did not work. And I said, "Fine, we have to create our own platform." You and I have talked about this, I've talked about this with other members of the team. I was incredibly frustrated. And did not want this platform that we were building to ever be restricted to only our interests. Great example, when Christine Bannon Rodriguez and I were talking about her coming on the podcast. She said, you know, "I'm sponsored by Macho, you have your own sparring gear. Is that gonna be an issue?" I'm like, no, not at all, and unless it's been taken down, there is still a link from her show notes page to macho.com. Because I'm not going to pretend that alternatives don't exist. I want whatever we make to be the best. Not the only.
Jeremy Lesniak:
The timing of this question is interesting because just yesterday, issue one of the martial journal print edition started to land in people's mailboxes. There is another piece of the platform. martialjournal.com, martial journal the magazine, this show, our Patreon, the blogs, the social media, all the content that we put out- I make available to people in this community. Anybody can write for martial journal. I tell guests frequently when we're closing up their interview, "If you have stuff, you want us to push on social media just send it to us. We'll put it in the queue. That is the thing that I think long term will be the most helpful to the martial arts community, is this platform to reach other martial artists and thus I think it has the opportunity to be the most transformational for the martial arts industry and so that is what I'm most proud of.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, that's a good answer.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I hope so. That's the truth.
Andrew Adams:
I know that you are not one to generally speak your own phrases.
Jeremy Lesniak:
No, I don't like doing that.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I get that, but I think it's important sometimes to put that out there to be able to say like "I did this, and this was a good thing, and you know-"
Jeremy Lesniak:
Drawstring shorts are awkward in this setting because I'm sitting and I just realized like we've recorded a while and like the bow, if you are not watching this... you're listening to the drawstring bow on my shorts.
Andrew Adams:
It was just kind of in an awful position.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It was strange.
Andrew Adams:
I didn't notice. All right, moving to the next one!
Jeremy Lesniak:
I am secondly most proud of my ability to derail a serious conversation with self-deprecating humor when it- because it gets uncomfortable for me. I don't like talking about myself. I don't like talking about the things I work hard on . I like talking about the goals, the future, the progress, the impact that we're trying to make. It's not about me, it's never been about me. I don't ever want it to be about me.
Andrew Adams:
I get it. All right, next question. What makes martial arts art?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I've thought about this a lot. I've done episodes where we've unpacked this. So, when people say you know martial arts is just about fighting my response is always "Look at the term, martial art. One of those is a noun, the other is an adjective. Martial is not a noun, it is an adjective. Art is the noun, martial arts is art. What is art? My definition of art is that in which the creator leaves a piece of themselves to the...and you can kind of trail off with the rest of that to the betterment enjoyment whatever of, of others and that definition for me comes from looking at...Specifically musicians that I think very highly of. Bradley Nowell of Sublime, Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, Amy Winehouse. These people who flared up so quickly, so brightly and just burnt out and if you really want to see what someone is willing to do for the art. Go read Bradley Nowell's story, go learn more about him. He knew what was going to kill him, did it anyway because he had something he needed to create and leave the world with. What was the question again?
Andrew Adams:
What makes martial arts art?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, I wanted to make sure I was answering from the right angle. When we train, I don't care if we line up 500 people. Give them the exact same instructions from the exact same instructor, the exact same time they're in a class at the same time they're all going to do it differently. Now, there are times in demonstration and synchronized forms and things like that where we're trying to beat that out of ourselves or we're trying to do it exactly the same but think about any free-form movement. If you and I spar or you and I spar tomorrow or the day after that, it's gonna be a little bit different. Even if we do the same techniques. We're gonna do them in different ways because we are showing up as that version of Andrew and Jeremy on that day and the fact that it requires putting something of ourselves into it, it is not just ourselves. If I sit at a keyboard and I type a quote and I punch those keys, they have to come out in the same order. I can't mix up the order. The... If I type very fast or slow, there's a different cadence. It doesn't matter, that doesn't show up in the end product. I could read it that way but if I do read it that way, if I speak it... if I say those same words, there's a difference in how I enunciate the pauses, inflection, what's on my face when I say it, and there are martial arts schools that try to push that out of people, I think that's the wrong thing. You know one of my favorite things that I discovered in the last, it's only been the last ten years. When I think of forms at the highest level, it's the spaces between the moves. It's not the moves themselves. You can watch two very high-level martial arts practitioners doing the same form in the same way and you're going to end up with two different experiences and it's not because of the movements, it's what they do between the movements. It's...There is another quarter beat between these two movements or the timing, the breath. You know, it's just the incredible subtleties and to me that's the greatest value of martial arts that's why when I describe- you know in Karate people, typically describe it as the progression as Kihon basics, Kata forms, Kumite, sparring or free-form movement, and I flip the last two. I think Kata, I think forms is the greatest indication of someone's martial arts competency because I can show you... show me a great forms competitor who isn't at least mildly competent as a fighter, you cannot say the same about the opposite.
Andrew Adams:
That's very true. Cool, alright!
Jeremy Lesniak:
Did I answer your question?
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I mean I think so. I think the answer is different from everyone, I think the concept of defining art is such a difficult thing. If you would just approach anyone on the street define art, that becomes a difficult thing to do. You know, my instructor has often said his instructor would define art as structure without boundaries. If you think about that for a second, you know if you are a painter, there's going to be a structure. There has to be something you're painting on… Jeremy Lesniak:
There's a canvas, there's a brush, there's specific colors that you've chosen.
Andrew Adams:
But you could choose any of that. If you are a painter, you need something to paint on and you need paint. That's it, that's the structure. There's no boundaries after that, you could paint with... Whenever you want to, you could paint on anything. If you're a musician, your instrument is your boundary- I mean it's your structure, right? Whatever it is, whether it's guitar or drum and I think that's an interesting concept to think about, just think about what art is and what is the structure that you as a now, we're talking martial artists. What's the structure? There's no boundaries but there's a structure, the structure is we're punching and kicking and how I'm punching, and kicking may be different from yours but that's where there's no boundaries, you do it any way you want. So that was good.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I like that. I hope people out there take some time and contemplate this question and how they would answer it for themselves. I think that's an important thing, the further you go in martial arts, I think the more your own understanding of this becomes relevant.
Andrew Adams:
All right. Last question, This is a question from Jared Wilson, who is the co-host of he and his... Paul Williams, no, Dan Williams. I'm so bad, hang on.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Jared is the host of martial thoughts.
Andrew Adams:
Sorry, Paul Wilson. Not Jared.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, that's an important distinction. Those are two different people.
Andrew Adams:
Yes very, you are right.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Of Karate Cafe.
Andrew Adams:
He's one of the co-hosts of Karate Cafe and he sent this question to me, specifically for our next Q&A and his question is "What martial art is best for defeating a woodchuck?"
Jeremy Lesniak:
Did you see my face start to get really really upset? because I hate what [25:08.07].
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I know, and I suspect that Paga knows that as well and so, when I got this question, I was like "Oh this is good."
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, so this is great thank you. All right, so we were talking about woodchucks earlier
and the fact that I have trapped three of them. Had the opportunity to spend some time near them. They have really long toes with very sharp claws. I had a pet rabbit and early on his first couple years
he would get aggressive with me. We would fight, he would attack me, paw at me and what would happen next was not really relevant but i would imagine because woodchuck are diggers. They would do this. This feels like a very weird how to fight episode that we're doing right now, and I would imagine that because they have long teeth, they are rodents. I would assume their teeth would continue to grow thus they are strong. They're going to bite if close and if slightly farther away, it's going to be here so not Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Not any form of Jiu Jitsu. I'm not going to grapple with a woodchuck, no matter how large that woodchuck is. That doesn't feel like a good option. Secondly, anything where I'm going to put my hands on the ground, like Capoeira, doesn't seem like the best choice. I’m not going to plant my hands and come through with anything like that, `that doesn't seem like a good idea. Though, the side-to-side lateral movement does seem like a good idea so I could do that. Now, really what I'm looking at is low kicks. I'm not going to squat down to punch a woodchuck.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah. That's fair.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I want to keep my face as far away. My face is my most vulnerable part of my body to a woodchuck with those claws and those teeth.
Andrew Adams:
And it's your money maker.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I mean without this, I mean we wouldn't have any of this. You didn't start time.
Andrew Adams:
That's fine. We're good. I'll let you for 10 minutes on this one if you want.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, I'm thinking about what martial arts are specifically engaged in low kicks and the two coming to mind are two styles of Karate. It's Kyokushin and its Ishmael. Kyokushin... you know those nice leg kicks, I could totally see if the woodchucks are just hauling off and shin kicking a woodchuck in the head. Now, for anybody out there who is starting to get offended, maybe this is your first episode. Which would be a strange episode to come in on but that's okay. I would never do that. I don't even eat cows, I don't eat beef. I love animals so this is all purely hypothetical.
Andrew Adams:
And I also suspect that Paul Wilson knows that as well which is what makes this question even more enjoyable.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, some low kicks out of Kyokushin or just Ishmael where the way I was taught every all of your kicks are below the knee, you know a good size woodchuck is going to be about you know this tall on all fours, but they like to stand up. They like to stand on their back legs and kind of survey things and so you know the bigger one that was in my yard was probably about this tall and not that it's part of any fighting system, I am aware of but they like cantaloupe so I would probably utilize that to my advantage.
Andrew Adams:
Like a distraction maybe.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I took some video of feeding one of them cantaloupe.
Andrew Adams:
Before you relocated it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I May or may not have relocated it because of legal reasons.
Andrew Adams:
Gotcha.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm not saying that I did.
Andrew Adams:
Fair enough.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, low kicks, Isshin-Ryu, Kyokushin, keep your face away.
Andrew Adams:
Awesome. Good question.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's a great question, I like that fun stuff. We take ourselves too seriously as martial artists.
Andrew Adams:
Well, I would like to say that one for the end. For the last time you know. The other questions were a little more serious and I apologize for messing up Paul Wilson's name. Jared Wilson was on my brain, I guess.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Both good people, both great martial artists, both martial arts podcasters, half of their names are the same. I mean it's...
Andrew Adams:
A simple mistake.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I met someone yesterday and in the five minutes we were talking, in which I forgot their name entirely. My name was reduced to Jason as I walked away. So you know it happens. A name is a name.
Andrew Adams:
I did find out there's another Andrew Adams martial artist though.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Really?
Andrew Adams:
Yes, he's a fifth-degree black belt in Taekwondo out in the Midwest somewhere.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I want you to interview him for the show. I think that would be fun, let's do it. Anything else for this episode?
Andrew Adams:
No, that's it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
All right. I want to thank you for watching or listening to this episode of martial arts radio. If you're new, make sure you go to whistlekickmartialartsradio.com and sign up for the newsletter. Check out all the other shows we've ever done there's so many of them. This is going to be 600 and something. I'm not entirely sure yet you know. You probably already know, you know, and I don't, that's okay. If you want to support us and all the work that we're doing you know to buy things like banners because you can see, we spend so much money on these things. Note, the spray foam that is not even covered on this side, we covered it on that side.
Andrew Adams:
I didn't notice I got the good side.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You got the good side. This is a really high budget operation we're running, you got a few things you can do you can go to whistlekick.com and if you want to use the code podcast15 to grab something over there. Shirt, sweatshirt, gear, uniform, whatever it's over there. You can also support us through making a donation, whistlecakemartialartsradio.com. We received a donation over the weekend. Somebody threw us 50 bucks. I'm super pumped. Biggest donation we've ever received. Thank you, I don't call out names. Two other things you can do, whistlekickprograms.com check out what we've got over there, and we've also got a Patreon- patreon.com/whistlekick we throw you some merch, we throw you some exclusive bonus content. You're not going to get anywhere else like an audio, video, episode we recorded earlier because it's all about value okay and if you want to leave us a review or tell people about what we've got going on it's another way you can help us out and it's- so if you've got questions for a future Q&A, email Andrew.
Andrew, I almost gave him here I’m going to send my email address. Andrew@whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. I'm jeremy@whistlekick.com and our social media is @whistlekick.
Andrew Adams:
Send me good questions.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Only send good ones.
Andrew Adams
And funny ones.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Or funny ones, it could be both.
Andrew Adams:
If they're not good, I just won't use them.
Jeremy Lesniak:
That's fair, alright. Until next time, train hard, smile, and have a great day!